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		<title>By: Ondrej Dyrka</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/what-is-social-media/#comment-21562</link>
		<dc:creator>Ondrej Dyrka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 08:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can talk to someone behind the keyboard as well, that&#039;s the beauty of the modern age.</description>
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		<title>By: BP</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/what-is-social-media/#comment-5918</link>
		<dc:creator>BP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s using the tools around you to be YOU as loudly in order to attract YOUR  kind.&quot; That&#039;s all it seems to be, a lot of people shouting a lot of useless information and self-serving plugs. It&#039;s one of the greatest excuses for call reluctance for salespeople ever. We&#039;re hiding behind the blanket of social media instead of making personal contact with people. Want to be human? Talk with someone. Don&#039;t hide behind a keyboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s using the tools around you to be YOU as loudly in order to attract YOUR  kind.&#8221; That&#8217;s all it seems to be, a lot of people shouting a lot of useless information and self-serving plugs. It&#8217;s one of the greatest excuses for call reluctance for salespeople ever. We&#8217;re hiding behind the blanket of social media instead of making personal contact with people. Want to be human? Talk with someone. Don&#8217;t hide behind a keyboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Blueprint Marketing</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/what-is-social-media/#comment-5915</link>
		<dc:creator>Blueprint Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with highlighting something like people trust personal recommendations more than ads is that with convergence the two are becoming harder to distinguish between. A personal recommendation is one from someone you personally know, not a web identity/blogger/Digger/whomever. Harmony Central used to be reputedly reliable for musical instrument reviews. See something tasty on Ebay, check it out on HC for reviews. If it gets good ones, buy it. That reputation has apparently suffered since HC got bought out by a big related industry company. I know about this, maybe not everyone coming along will. What&#039;s a genuine peer review? One made by a peer you have a personal relationship with, one with whom you have personal interaction, physically or virtually. That&#039;s a lot harder to create than you might think, in fact making adverts is probably cheaper and easier.

BB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with highlighting something like people trust personal recommendations more than ads is that with convergence the two are becoming harder to distinguish between. A personal recommendation is one from someone you personally know, not a web identity/blogger/Digger/whomever. Harmony Central used to be reputedly reliable for musical instrument reviews. See something tasty on Ebay, check it out on HC for reviews. If it gets good ones, buy it. That reputation has apparently suffered since HC got bought out by a big related industry company. I know about this, maybe not everyone coming along will. What&#8217;s a genuine peer review? One made by a peer you have a personal relationship with, one with whom you have personal interaction, physically or virtually. That&#8217;s a lot harder to create than you might think, in fact making adverts is probably cheaper and easier.</p>
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		<title>By: john andrews</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/what-is-social-media/#comment-5882</link>
		<dc:creator>john andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 00:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Elisa your poetry example may be very true for YOUR case, which is why YOU have the right to license YOUR work as you see fit. I would like that right for myself as well, if you don&#039;t mind. 

Photography may be a better example than poetry. My friend pays $30k/month to maintain his studio (payments on financed gear, staff, rent) and an image can take all day and 12-15 shoots before it&#039;s right. You think he wants to trade that image for &quot;exposure&quot;? Maybe he does.. but that should be his call not ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Elisa your poetry example may be very true for YOUR case, which is why YOU have the right to license YOUR work as you see fit. I would like that right for myself as well, if you don&#8217;t mind. </p>
<p>Photography may be a better example than poetry. My friend pays $30k/month to maintain his studio (payments on financed gear, staff, rent) and an image can take all day and 12-15 shoots before it&#8217;s right. You think he wants to trade that image for &#8220;exposure&#8221;? Maybe he does.. but that should be his call not ours.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonah Stein</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/what-is-social-media/#comment-5875</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonah Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John

I couldn&#039;t agree more about much of what you say about the breakdown of economics and law and I hope you&#039;re right when you say it can&#039;t get much worse.  The corporations aren&#039;t even in it to rewards shareholders anymore.  That fascade has been ripped of, revealing that the corporate CEO and the politicians are essentially co-conspirators in a cleptocracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more about much of what you say about the breakdown of economics and law and I hope you&#8217;re right when you say it can&#8217;t get much worse.  The corporations aren&#8217;t even in it to rewards shareholders anymore.  That fascade has been ripped of, revealing that the corporate CEO and the politicians are essentially co-conspirators in a cleptocracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Elisa</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/what-is-social-media/#comment-5873</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oy, copyright law. So fraught. I feel like as long as things are credited, exposure can only be good. I&#039;m a poet, and if someone posts one of my poems on their blog, I don&#039;t ask them to take it down because it&#039;s copyrighted, I hope that someone will see it and like it and seek out more of my work. The viral video about the wedding entrance that was on this blog a month or so ago ended up causing a huge spike in sales for that Chris Brown single. I can see people viewing the Socialnomics video and then buying the Fat Boy Slim single from iTunes along the same lines. Basically seems like free advertising. So what exactly is the big issue? I guess the argument is that the song is being used to sell the book so the artist should get a cut of the book sales? It just doesn&#039;t seem like exploitation when it&#039;s the relatively little guy doing it (via social media) as opposed to a huge corporation using an artist&#039;s song in a car or software commercial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oy, copyright law. So fraught. I feel like as long as things are credited, exposure can only be good. I&#8217;m a poet, and if someone posts one of my poems on their blog, I don&#8217;t ask them to take it down because it&#8217;s copyrighted, I hope that someone will see it and like it and seek out more of my work. The viral video about the wedding entrance that was on this blog a month or so ago ended up causing a huge spike in sales for that Chris Brown single. I can see people viewing the Socialnomics video and then buying the Fat Boy Slim single from iTunes along the same lines. Basically seems like free advertising. So what exactly is the big issue? I guess the argument is that the song is being used to sell the book so the artist should get a cut of the book sales? It just doesn&#8217;t seem like exploitation when it&#8217;s the relatively little guy doing it (via social media) as opposed to a huge corporation using an artist&#8217;s song in a car or software commercial.</p>
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		<title>By: john andrews</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/what-is-social-media/#comment-5871</link>
		<dc:creator>john andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched it again here, after having seen the original a while back (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL9Wu2kWwSY). The whole time, I wondered if Fat Boy Slim got paid for the use of the song. The music is central to the success of the propaganda,  and the question of whether or not they got paid, is central to the fallacy that is &quot;social media vs. traditional advertising&quot;.

Advertising is an industry. Social Media is a label. Advertising is dying, but not because Social Media has eaten its lunch. Advertising (the industry) is dying for many reasons related to business performance. And business performance is tied to economics and society, which is (supposed to be) governed by the rule of law, which is (supposed to be) based on a concept of justice and the protection of inalienable human rights.  If the law and the economic system fail to deliver the supports they were designed to deliver (such as the right to the pursuit of happiness), the business rules written to operate within those laws (such as advertising transactions and copyright rules ) will fail to perform. I don&#039;t argue the &quot;right or wrong&quot; of our current laws and rules, but if we operate under a rule of law (as opposed to a dictatorship, for example) then we have to enforce the laws and protect the rules, or the system we call &quot;civilization&quot; will break down (in our local society). You&#039;ll be out of work, or working hard but still poor, or unable to improve your situation due to oppression, etc.

If we view &quot;social media&quot; as a grass roots land grab, taking place while the law is disregarded or corrupted (justice being tossed aside, hard work deferred because celebrity and monopoly are easier to obtain and more profitable) then yes, it should be easy to &quot;show&quot; how social media is taking over. More accurately, though, anarchy is taking over (in niches like multimedia production for social media... e.g. fatBoySlim not getting paid) and the political-economic system is corrupt (lawmakers and the media being pawns of paying corporations, acting to alienate individual people to reward shareholders).

The saddest part: if I scoff this off as an attempt by a slick marketing video producer to get some attention, I can&#039;t help but note the less-than-stellar-quality of the production (transitions too fast towards the end, some off-center positioning, and an over dependence on the music for rhythm, not really well synched to the viewer&#039;s thought process). I can&#039;t help but notice the failure of execution in a branding and reputation management sense. But I see it is meant to sell pop-psychology pulp fiction.... a book about social media... so okay, I guess it might be  good for that. 

I am also sad that so many people read the blogs and get their news from twitter and never read &quot;real books&quot; that the corrupt system doesn&#039;t want them to read. Pawns, every one. Including, lately, perhaps out of desperation, the last institutions still trying to round out the truth (look how &quot;seo&quot; causes even these guys to produce spammy junk content http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/52769.. it ranks for searches for those authors ).

Prefer positive thought over reality? Okay... it can&#039;t get much worse for very long, and then things will have to get better!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched it again here, after having seen the original a while back (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL9Wu2kWwSY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL9Wu2kWwSY</a>). The whole time, I wondered if Fat Boy Slim got paid for the use of the song. The music is central to the success of the propaganda,  and the question of whether or not they got paid, is central to the fallacy that is &#8220;social media vs. traditional advertising&#8221;.</p>
<p>Advertising is an industry. Social Media is a label. Advertising is dying, but not because Social Media has eaten its lunch. Advertising (the industry) is dying for many reasons related to business performance. And business performance is tied to economics and society, which is (supposed to be) governed by the rule of law, which is (supposed to be) based on a concept of justice and the protection of inalienable human rights.  If the law and the economic system fail to deliver the supports they were designed to deliver (such as the right to the pursuit of happiness), the business rules written to operate within those laws (such as advertising transactions and copyright rules ) will fail to perform. I don&#8217;t argue the &#8220;right or wrong&#8221; of our current laws and rules, but if we operate under a rule of law (as opposed to a dictatorship, for example) then we have to enforce the laws and protect the rules, or the system we call &#8220;civilization&#8221; will break down (in our local society). You&#8217;ll be out of work, or working hard but still poor, or unable to improve your situation due to oppression, etc.</p>
<p>If we view &#8220;social media&#8221; as a grass roots land grab, taking place while the law is disregarded or corrupted (justice being tossed aside, hard work deferred because celebrity and monopoly are easier to obtain and more profitable) then yes, it should be easy to &#8220;show&#8221; how social media is taking over. More accurately, though, anarchy is taking over (in niches like multimedia production for social media&#8230; e.g. fatBoySlim not getting paid) and the political-economic system is corrupt (lawmakers and the media being pawns of paying corporations, acting to alienate individual people to reward shareholders).</p>
<p>The saddest part: if I scoff this off as an attempt by a slick marketing video producer to get some attention, I can&#8217;t help but note the less-than-stellar-quality of the production (transitions too fast towards the end, some off-center positioning, and an over dependence on the music for rhythm, not really well synched to the viewer&#8217;s thought process). I can&#8217;t help but notice the failure of execution in a branding and reputation management sense. But I see it is meant to sell pop-psychology pulp fiction&#8230;. a book about social media&#8230; so okay, I guess it might be  good for that. </p>
<p>I am also sad that so many people read the blogs and get their news from twitter and never read &#8220;real books&#8221; that the corrupt system doesn&#8217;t want them to read. Pawns, every one. Including, lately, perhaps out of desperation, the last institutions still trying to round out the truth (look how &#8220;seo&#8221; causes even these guys to produce spammy junk content <a href="http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/52769." rel="nofollow">http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/52769.</a>. it ranks for searches for those authors ).</p>
<p>Prefer positive thought over reality? Okay&#8230; it can&#8217;t get much worse for very long, and then things will have to get better!</p>
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		<title>By: Yawn Webmaster!</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/what-is-social-media/#comment-5828</link>
		<dc:creator>Yawn Webmaster!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Oh no, it&#039;s more of what Social Media does so very well. FLUFF.&lt;/b&gt;

Adverts like this (I hope they paid to licence that music?) that draw out statistics without sources are not subject to be taken with a &#039;pinch of salt&#039;, but rather a quantity of salt so big it would make the residue left from boiling the Atlantic ocean look like &#039;a pinch&#039;.

Again your ability to time your posts with my own on the very subject of looking at Social Media beyond its fluff makes me thing that we&#039;ve got some kind of spiritual link goin&#039; on.

Shout loudly yes, but shout about something and make sure it&#039;s shouted with a degree of control otherwise, your Tweet might come back and haunt you and your competitor will have the last laugh.

Yawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Oh no, it&#8217;s more of what Social Media does so very well. FLUFF.</b></p>
<p>Adverts like this (I hope they paid to licence that music?) that draw out statistics without sources are not subject to be taken with a &#8216;pinch of salt&#8217;, but rather a quantity of salt so big it would make the residue left from boiling the Atlantic ocean look like &#8216;a pinch&#8217;.</p>
<p>Again your ability to time your posts with my own on the very subject of looking at Social Media beyond its fluff makes me thing that we&#8217;ve got some kind of spiritual link goin&#8217; on.</p>
<p>Shout loudly yes, but shout about something and make sure it&#8217;s shouted with a degree of control otherwise, your Tweet might come back and haunt you and your competitor will have the last laugh.</p>
<p>Yawn.</p>
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		<title>By: RavenAlyson</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/what-is-social-media/#comment-5820</link>
		<dc:creator>RavenAlyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although several have argued the accuracy of this video, I agree that although these statistics may be inflated, most likely they will be true... in a few months to a year.  

I can definitely relate to the story of the other Allison (oh really, there must be something about people named Allison who are awesome!).  I am a quite fresh college graduate (Class of 07).  My freshman year was when Facebook hit, and the rumor of Facebook hit before my university actually got it.  And WHEN we got it, it was a BIG DEAL, I&#039;m talking HUGE.

I think what should be taken from this video is that even to some Generation Y or Z (I have no idea where I fall when it comes to those classifications) Social Media scares the shit out of you.  The fact that it moves at lightning speed means that companies and persons have to be on the top of their game when it comes to responding to their customers needs, complaints, and wants.

It is even incredibly intimidating to me, and I&#039;m of this generation.  Literally, right smack dab in the middle of it.  I graduated college with a sociology degree and it is so fascinating to see that back then, the subject was still being taught in terms of physical societies and very little was put forth into realizing that a dramatic shift has happened.  I am more likely to receive an evite than an invitation in the mail (except for the 18 I got this summer for weddings).  I am more likely to discuss dinner plans over IM than on the phone.  I communicate with my co-workers through IM, and they are literally within a 15 foot radius of me and some are within yelling distance (ahem @RavenGeordie).  Although the number of front porches in America is shrinking, millions or billions are connecting over the internet.

Social Media is totally shaken up the way marketing and businesses work (um... and life).  And yes, its REALLY intimidating and scary.  I struggle so much with just getting over the fear of, &quot;What if someone thinks my tweet is stupid?&quot; or &quot;What if in one year, my daily blog readers are still under 10?&quot;.  But I think something that Outspoken Media (and others) have really encouraged is to get into it and get your hands dirty.  You fail? Big deal you fail... Get over it and share a link that&#039;s actually interesting.

Great post, I really enjoyed reading it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although several have argued the accuracy of this video, I agree that although these statistics may be inflated, most likely they will be true&#8230; in a few months to a year.  </p>
<p>I can definitely relate to the story of the other Allison (oh really, there must be something about people named Allison who are awesome!).  I am a quite fresh college graduate (Class of 07).  My freshman year was when Facebook hit, and the rumor of Facebook hit before my university actually got it.  And WHEN we got it, it was a BIG DEAL, I&#8217;m talking HUGE.</p>
<p>I think what should be taken from this video is that even to some Generation Y or Z (I have no idea where I fall when it comes to those classifications) Social Media scares the shit out of you.  The fact that it moves at lightning speed means that companies and persons have to be on the top of their game when it comes to responding to their customers needs, complaints, and wants.</p>
<p>It is even incredibly intimidating to me, and I&#8217;m of this generation.  Literally, right smack dab in the middle of it.  I graduated college with a sociology degree and it is so fascinating to see that back then, the subject was still being taught in terms of physical societies and very little was put forth into realizing that a dramatic shift has happened.  I am more likely to receive an evite than an invitation in the mail (except for the 18 I got this summer for weddings).  I am more likely to discuss dinner plans over IM than on the phone.  I communicate with my co-workers through IM, and they are literally within a 15 foot radius of me and some are within yelling distance (ahem @RavenGeordie).  Although the number of front porches in America is shrinking, millions or billions are connecting over the internet.</p>
<p>Social Media is totally shaken up the way marketing and businesses work (um&#8230; and life).  And yes, its REALLY intimidating and scary.  I struggle so much with just getting over the fear of, &#8220;What if someone thinks my tweet is stupid?&#8221; or &#8220;What if in one year, my daily blog readers are still under 10?&#8221;.  But I think something that Outspoken Media (and others) have really encouraged is to get into it and get your hands dirty.  You fail? Big deal you fail&#8230; Get over it and share a link that&#8217;s actually interesting.</p>
<p>Great post, I really enjoyed reading it.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa,

So I watched this earlier and read the post, then nodded with approval and I was going to go on about my &quot;busy&quot; work day.  But I&#039;ve been thinking about you/social media ;) all day and so I&#039;ve decided to come back and leave one of these comment things.  

I thought the video was very interesting, although I have forgotten all the facts it threw out at me even though the twitter and facebook update part was very creative!  The point I think I was supposed to take with me is that social media is sort of a big deal right?  

My first thought is how does a business create human connections using social media?  The messages can&#039;t be automated, and must be monitored, which usually means one or two people manage the twitter, facebook updates, responses, etc.   Does this run the risk that the online presence of a company will take on the personality of their social media guru?  And is this the perception they want?  For instance, any interest or connection I have to Outspoken Media is due to the blog, or your social media prowess / twitter hilarity!  ( That and Kitty Cornelius&#039; Twitter Page! ) So I think maybe one of the reasons many companies are slow to adopt social media is because they don&#039;t know the secret to your social skillz!

As far as social media being a fundamental shift or back to the way things used to be I really don&#039;t know.  A time before &quot;communication became marketing&quot; is before my time, and we are around the same age so I don&#039;t know what that&#039;s about :)  I would say it&#039;s probably both.  Social media has changed the way we communicate, and in doing so created a new avenue for businesses to reach consumers, that may SEEM like it&#039;s not marketing, but in reality probably is.  I&#039;m sure the first TV commercials felt the same way, and now we DVR the shit out of anything we can so who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa,</p>
<p>So I watched this earlier and read the post, then nodded with approval and I was going to go on about my &#8220;busy&#8221; work day.  But I&#8217;ve been thinking about you/social media ;) all day and so I&#8217;ve decided to come back and leave one of these comment things.  </p>
<p>I thought the video was very interesting, although I have forgotten all the facts it threw out at me even though the twitter and facebook update part was very creative!  The point I think I was supposed to take with me is that social media is sort of a big deal right?  </p>
<p>My first thought is how does a business create human connections using social media?  The messages can&#8217;t be automated, and must be monitored, which usually means one or two people manage the twitter, facebook updates, responses, etc.   Does this run the risk that the online presence of a company will take on the personality of their social media guru?  And is this the perception they want?  For instance, any interest or connection I have to Outspoken Media is due to the blog, or your social media prowess / twitter hilarity!  ( That and Kitty Cornelius&#8217; Twitter Page! ) So I think maybe one of the reasons many companies are slow to adopt social media is because they don&#8217;t know the secret to your social skillz!</p>
<p>As far as social media being a fundamental shift or back to the way things used to be I really don&#8217;t know.  A time before &#8220;communication became marketing&#8221; is before my time, and we are around the same age so I don&#8217;t know what that&#8217;s about :)  I would say it&#8217;s probably both.  Social media has changed the way we communicate, and in doing so created a new avenue for businesses to reach consumers, that may SEEM like it&#8217;s not marketing, but in reality probably is.  I&#8217;m sure the first TV commercials felt the same way, and now we DVR the shit out of anything we can so who knows.</p>
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