Comments on: Cool Or Not Cool: FourSquare Divides The Web http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/foursquare-divides-the-web/ Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:47:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Adriel Hampton http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/foursquare-divides-the-web/#comment-11120 Adriel Hampton Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:10:02 +0000 http://outspokenmedia.com/?p=4906#comment-11120 Utterly loathesome Twitter integration. And I suspect if the people who do it actually read their stream, they'd feel the same. Maybe even more annoying than sponsored ads. Utterly loathesome Twitter integration. And I suspect if the people who do it actually read their stream, they’d feel the same. Maybe even more annoying than sponsored ads.

]]> By: Tim Danyo http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/foursquare-divides-the-web/#comment-9387 Tim Danyo Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:33:22 +0000 http://outspokenmedia.com/?p=4906#comment-9387 Foursquare needs to set it up to be a hyper local interface with a 100 mile limit and your friends are only allowed in that 100 mile radius you are currently inside. It is pointless otherwise and a putrid non relevant text generator. Foursquare needs to set it up to be a hyper local interface with a 100 mile limit and your friends are only allowed in that 100 mile radius you are currently inside. It is pointless otherwise and a putrid non relevant text generator.

]]> By: dvs http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/foursquare-divides-the-web/#comment-9332 dvs Sat, 23 Jan 2010 02:09:33 +0000 http://outspokenmedia.com/?p=4906#comment-9332 Remember when <a href="http://playspymaster.com" rel="nofollow">Spy Master</a> was all over Twitter? Foursquare is the exact same garbage to me. If I wanted to know where Foursquare users were, I would use that service and follow them. Same with Gowalla and all the rest. Their cross-promotion on twitter is nothing more than an abuse of a service with an existing user base in a bid to increase theirs. IMO, Twitter should be charging them for the advertising they're getting. Remember when Spy Master was all over Twitter? Foursquare is the exact same garbage to me.

If I wanted to know where Foursquare users were, I would use that service and follow them. Same with Gowalla and all the rest. Their cross-promotion on twitter is nothing more than an abuse of a service with an existing user base in a bid to increase theirs.

IMO, Twitter should be charging them for the advertising they’re getting.

]]> By: petermavrik http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/foursquare-divides-the-web/#comment-9321 petermavrik Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:18:34 +0000 http://outspokenmedia.com/?p=4906#comment-9321 Couldn't agree more. I unfollowed all Twitter folks who were broadcasting their crap in the timeline. Couldn’t agree more. I unfollowed all Twitter folks who were broadcasting their crap in the timeline.

]]> By: Frank http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/foursquare-divides-the-web/#comment-9283 Frank Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:20:53 +0000 http://outspokenmedia.com/?p=4906#comment-9283 All those Foursquare tweets make me think of the Tony Roberts character in Play it Again, Sam. The first thing he does when he arrives somewhere is go to the phone and tell his seceretary that he'll be at such and such number between this time and that. It's a great running gag and makes it impossible for me take Foursquare seriously. Which may turn out to be a shame. All those Foursquare tweets make me think of the Tony Roberts character in Play it Again, Sam. The first thing he does when he arrives somewhere is go to the phone and tell his seceretary that he’ll be at such and such number between this time and that. It’s a great running gag and makes it impossible for me take Foursquare seriously. Which may turn out to be a shame.

]]> By: Russell http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/foursquare-divides-the-web/#comment-9272 Russell Fri, 22 Jan 2010 05:01:03 +0000 http://outspokenmedia.com/?p=4906#comment-9272 This post was spot on. As FourSquare picks up momentum, the early adopters I follow are using it more often and I can't do anything to get their completely useless location updates out of my stream. Do you think Twitter should address this issue, as the only way I can fix this is to unfollow them, thereby decreasing the value of Twitter? Like you, I use the web version both on my computer and my phone so I have no filtering options. Thanks for blogging exactly what I was thinking! This post was spot on. As FourSquare picks up momentum, the early adopters I follow are using it more often and I can’t do anything to get their completely useless location updates out of my stream. Do you think Twitter should address this issue, as the only way I can fix this is to unfollow them, thereby decreasing the value of Twitter? Like you, I use the web version both on my computer and my phone so I have no filtering options. Thanks for blogging exactly what I was thinking!

]]> By: Kyle Cameron Studstill http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/foursquare-divides-the-web/#comment-9159 Kyle Cameron Studstill Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:09:10 +0000 http://outspokenmedia.com/?p=4906#comment-9159 This to me gets at the core of the 'usability issue.' Check-ins aren't going away, just like people talking about where they are and what they're doing aren't going away. They've always been core pieces of human behavior; the whole concept of a status-update service like Twitter was most previously manifested in 'status' on instant messenger clients. The problem, as the post and some comments allude to, is a filter problem. "This would all be okay if I could choose X to appear in my stream or Y to not appear in my stream or make it such that Z appears in my W stream" seems to be the sentiment. Increasingly, services like Foursquare and Twitter are becoming invisible backends for front-facing applications that allow you to do just that. How to organize and make best use of filters...that's a larger and stickier problem. But that's not a Foursquare-specific problem, any more than how to avoid people who only post dramatic notes on the status of their relationship is a Facebook-specific problem. This to me gets at the core of the ‘usability issue.’ Check-ins aren’t going away, just like people talking about where they are and what they’re doing aren’t going away. They’ve always been core pieces of human behavior; the whole concept of a status-update service like Twitter was most previously manifested in ‘status’ on instant messenger clients.

The problem, as the post and some comments allude to, is a filter problem. “This would all be okay if I could choose X to appear in my stream or Y to not appear in my stream or make it such that Z appears in my W stream” seems to be the sentiment. Increasingly, services like Foursquare and Twitter are becoming invisible backends for front-facing applications that allow you to do just that.

How to organize and make best use of filters…that’s a larger and stickier problem. But that’s not a Foursquare-specific problem, any more than how to avoid people who only post dramatic notes on the status of their relationship is a Facebook-specific problem.

]]> By: Roy Reshef http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/foursquare-divides-the-web/#comment-9125 Roy Reshef Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:19:12 +0000 http://outspokenmedia.com/?p=4906#comment-9125 Great post, Lisa. I fully agree with your points about filtering the foursquare noise and the relevance radius. But the issue is actually neither a foursqaure issue nor a twitter issue. It's a twitter client issue. Basically, twitter search API supports most of what you want already! I know that because as a software architect I have studied that API to some extent. So it's just a matter of time till one (or more) twitter client application will implement these filtering features, as they are already supported by twitter search. Say, for example, you are following <a href="http://twitter.com/ilan" rel="nofollow">ilan</a> (I used his example as he uses foursquare). To filter out his foursquare tweets, you can use the following twitter search query (just copy this URL to the address bar): http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from:ilan+-source:foursquare If you would like to see ONLY his foursquare tweets, use: http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from:ilan+source:foursquare I know, you would like to see that filter nicely integrated in an application for everyone you follow. But that's at least a start. I use myself <a href="http://brizzly.com" rel="nofollow">Brizzly</a> a lot, that's a twitter web client with many nice features. One of the good ones is their "mute" button, which you can apply per user you follow. Say, someone is at some conference and tweeting like crazy, and you had enough of their tweets for the day. Or someone is checking in 17 times an hour to earn another silly badge in foursquare, you can simply put them on mute till further notice. Utmost joy of control :) Also relevance radius is supported by Twitter search. The following example is actually documented in their search API (I just modified it for your required 30 miles :) http://search.twitter.com/search?geocode=40.757929,-73.985506,30mi Hope that helps to ease your foursquare pain... Great post, Lisa. I fully agree with your points about filtering the foursquare noise and the relevance radius.
But the issue is actually neither a foursqaure issue nor a twitter issue. It’s a twitter client issue. Basically, twitter search API supports most of what you want already! I know that because as a software architect I have studied that API to some extent. So it’s just a matter of time till one (or more) twitter client application will implement these filtering features, as they are already supported by twitter search.
Say, for example, you are following ilan (I used his example as he uses foursquare). To filter out his foursquare tweets, you can use the following twitter search query (just copy this URL to the address bar):
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from:ilan+-source:foursquare
If you would like to see ONLY his foursquare tweets, use:
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from:ilan+source:foursquare
I know, you would like to see that filter nicely integrated in an application for everyone you follow. But that’s at least a start.
I use myself Brizzly a lot, that’s a twitter web client with many nice features. One of the good ones is their “mute” button, which you can apply per user you follow. Say, someone is at some conference and tweeting like crazy, and you had enough of their tweets for the day. Or someone is checking in 17 times an hour to earn another silly badge in foursquare, you can simply put them on mute till further notice. Utmost joy of control :)
Also relevance radius is supported by Twitter search. The following example is actually documented in their search API (I just modified it for your required 30 miles :)
http://search.twitter.com/search?geocode=40.757929,-73.985506,30mi
Hope that helps to ease your foursquare pain…

]]> By: Lea de Groot http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/foursquare-divides-the-web/#comment-9124 Lea de Groot Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:05:21 +0000 http://outspokenmedia.com/?p=4906#comment-9124 It would be nice to see twitter recognize 'localness'. They rolled out latlong on tweets a while ago IIRC - if they added a recognition of a tag, say #local, then users could have a profile setting for 'ignore #local tweets from > 30 miles away' - the user could even pick the distance (because, you know, 40 miles would work better for me ;)). It would be a general solution for upcoming 3rd party apps like foursquare (ie they would add #local to all tweets sent to Twitter, along with geolocating the tweet) and would be useful for more than 3rd party apps. I'm sure you people aren't interested when we sit around here discussing the latest huge storm blowing through town #local It would be nice to see twitter recognize ‘localness’.
They rolled out latlong on tweets a while ago IIRC – if they added a recognition of a tag, say #local, then users could have a profile setting for ‘ignore #local tweets from > 30 miles away’ – the user could even pick the distance (because, you know, 40 miles would work better for me ;)).
It would be a general solution for upcoming 3rd party apps like foursquare (ie they would add #local to all tweets sent to Twitter, along with geolocating the tweet) and would be useful for more than 3rd party apps. I’m sure you people aren’t interested when we sit around here discussing the latest huge storm blowing through town #local

]]> By: cK ! http://outspokenmedia.com/social-media/foursquare-divides-the-web/#comment-9122 cK ! Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:54:16 +0000 http://outspokenmedia.com/?p=4906#comment-9122 After reading through these comments, I get the feeling that most of you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to a lot of these applications! Many seem to be confused about what apps do what... and this could be blamed on the usability of the apps themselves, and the startup strategy of rolling out rough concepts, seeing what will stick, and then adapting and evolving with the community. As these apps continue to be developed or scrapped, one will eventually emerge as the leader and we will all be using it... :P After reading through these comments, I get the feeling that most of you don’t know what you’re talking about when it comes to a lot of these applications! Many seem to be confused about what apps do what… and this could be blamed on the usability of the apps themselves, and the startup strategy of rolling out rough concepts, seeing what will stick, and then adapting and evolving with the community.

As these apps continue to be developed or scrapped, one will eventually emerge as the leader and we will all be using it… :P

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