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		<title>By: Mendy Fristoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mendy Fristoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 15:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I completely agree with the above comment, the world-wide-web is with a doubt growing into the a first-rate number of important medium of communication across the globe and its due to sites like this that ideas are spreading so quickly. My best wishes, Alda.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with the above comment, the world-wide-web is with a doubt growing into the a first-rate number of important medium of communication across the globe and its due to sites like this that ideas are spreading so quickly. My best wishes, Alda.</p>
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		<title>By: Kae Kohl</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/online-marketing/old-is-new-marketing/#comment-6014</link>
		<dc:creator>Kae Kohl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Btw, Lisa, you can tell your dad you ARE a teacher. Just not in a four-walled classroom. Doesn&#039;t make your students appreciate you any less, however.  Now, I just need to find a way to get you a shiny, red virtual apple to prove it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, Lisa, you can tell your dad you ARE a teacher. Just not in a four-walled classroom. Doesn&#8217;t make your students appreciate you any less, however.  Now, I just need to find a way to get you a shiny, red virtual apple to prove it.</p>
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		<title>By: George Bounacos</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/online-marketing/old-is-new-marketing/#comment-6012</link>
		<dc:creator>George Bounacos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is so spot-on that it should be required for anyone who says they&#039;re a new media anything.  Because the old media folks understand everything about conversion and ROAS and branding and continuity having invented most of it.

The difference is that we don&#039;t rent a list, hire a lettershop and count results in a spreadsheet for the next 3 weeks like I did early in my career.  Now, given enough data, we can do true A/B or MVT splits and come away with actionable data in hours.

So your Dad is spot-on too.  What would probably blow his mind is that the barrier to entry to hanging out a shingle is so low.  Cost was a relatively effective barrier in print days.  Now with that barrier lowered, it&#039;s much easier for any secretary at Google (even those who can&#039;t cook) to track things marketers only dreamed of tracking back in the day.

Sometimes though I get a strong &quot;tell me the time, not how to make the watch&quot; message from older clients who want to know the possibilities.  Then younger clients decide they want keyword lists for their campaigns because they just know their market better than any keyword research ever.

Marketing&#039;s sword has many edges.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so spot-on that it should be required for anyone who says they&#8217;re a new media anything.  Because the old media folks understand everything about conversion and ROAS and branding and continuity having invented most of it.</p>
<p>The difference is that we don&#8217;t rent a list, hire a lettershop and count results in a spreadsheet for the next 3 weeks like I did early in my career.  Now, given enough data, we can do true A/B or MVT splits and come away with actionable data in hours.</p>
<p>So your Dad is spot-on too.  What would probably blow his mind is that the barrier to entry to hanging out a shingle is so low.  Cost was a relatively effective barrier in print days.  Now with that barrier lowered, it&#8217;s much easier for any secretary at Google (even those who can&#8217;t cook) to track things marketers only dreamed of tracking back in the day.</p>
<p>Sometimes though I get a strong &#8220;tell me the time, not how to make the watch&#8221; message from older clients who want to know the possibilities.  Then younger clients decide they want keyword lists for their campaigns because they just know their market better than any keyword research ever.</p>
<p>Marketing&#8217;s sword has many edges.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Sandquist</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/online-marketing/old-is-new-marketing/#comment-6001</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Sandquist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enjoyed your post Lisa, I with my dad, and have for 11 years...Your dad is right, it&#039;s all the same stuff. I tried for years to allow &quot;new&quot; or &quot;tech&quot;, or a &quot;webpage&quot; to the business... thinking it was a better way... it&#039;s the relationships, no matter how they develop, in person, or online that matter. My dad finally got it when I searched his name in Google and found a report on Angie&#039;s List. The recorder is on everyday. Learning how this stuff works should change normal business interactions for the better, it has for us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed your post Lisa, I with my dad, and have for 11 years&#8230;Your dad is right, it&#8217;s all the same stuff. I tried for years to allow &#8220;new&#8221; or &#8220;tech&#8221;, or a &#8220;webpage&#8221; to the business&#8230; thinking it was a better way&#8230; it&#8217;s the relationships, no matter how they develop, in person, or online that matter. My dad finally got it when I searched his name in Google and found a report on Angie&#8217;s List. The recorder is on everyday. Learning how this stuff works should change normal business interactions for the better, it has for us.</p>
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		<title>By: DeneneWrites</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/online-marketing/old-is-new-marketing/#comment-6000</link>
		<dc:creator>DeneneWrites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the deal with President Obama is kind of funny. And the fact that most people agree that Kanye is a &quot;jackass&quot; makes this another lesson that needs to hit home a few more times in national media for people to get the picture: If you&#039;re in the public eye your words can hit the streets a few seconds after they left your lips!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the deal with President Obama is kind of funny. And the fact that most people agree that Kanye is a &#8220;jackass&#8221; makes this another lesson that needs to hit home a few more times in national media for people to get the picture: If you&#8217;re in the public eye your words can hit the streets a few seconds after they left your lips!</p>
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		<title>By: Yawn Webmaster!</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/online-marketing/old-is-new-marketing/#comment-5999</link>
		<dc:creator>Yawn Webmaster!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, you&#039;ve certainly engaged me more now.

E credo che questo sia il tuo post migliore.
Ciao, da Italia.

Yawn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you&#8217;ve certainly engaged me more now.</p>
<p>E credo che questo sia il tuo post migliore.<br />
Ciao, da Italia.</p>
<p>Yawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Kae Kohl</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/online-marketing/old-is-new-marketing/#comment-5991</link>
		<dc:creator>Kae Kohl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just when I think you can&#039;t surprise me any more, you do (about the dad stuff). Great post about old and new. We teach people that it&#039;s just like that guy who had the hardware store on the corner 100 years ago. Only now when he sells you a crappy wrench, the whole world could  know.

I don&#039;t think the urge to kick one&#039;s dad ends much before 40. But you might beat the odds ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just when I think you can&#8217;t surprise me any more, you do (about the dad stuff). Great post about old and new. We teach people that it&#8217;s just like that guy who had the hardware store on the corner 100 years ago. Only now when he sells you a crappy wrench, the whole world could  know.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the urge to kick one&#8217;s dad ends much before 40. But you might beat the odds ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Luci Weston</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/online-marketing/old-is-new-marketing/#comment-5989</link>
		<dc:creator>Luci Weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Terrific post! 

Both of my parents have no clue what this &quot;blogging thing&quot; is about. I overheard my mother telling someone at a party that I was &quot;doing something with the computer.&quot; 

I especially like your point about everything being on the record these days. Without being paranoid, one has to assume that a camera or recording device is within range at all times. The old adage, &quot;If you can&#039;t say anything nice, don&#039;t say anything at all,&quot; takes on new meaning in today&#039;s digital age.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific post! </p>
<p>Both of my parents have no clue what this &#8220;blogging thing&#8221; is about. I overheard my mother telling someone at a party that I was &#8220;doing something with the computer.&#8221; </p>
<p>I especially like your point about everything being on the record these days. Without being paranoid, one has to assume that a camera or recording device is within range at all times. The old adage, &#8220;If you can&#8217;t say anything nice, don&#8217;t say anything at all,&#8221; takes on new meaning in today&#8217;s digital age.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Redman</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/online-marketing/old-is-new-marketing/#comment-5988</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Redman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s pretty pretentious and annoying when marketers &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; refer to their strategies as groundbreaking, cutting edge, or the future of...

Call me conservative but at the core of every strategy is probably the same belief system or rationale that Ogilvy had in the late 40&#039;s.  Unless you plan on smacking someone&#039;s face in the name of advertising, you probably aren&#039;t striking conceptual gold. 

Great post, Lisa.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty pretentious and annoying when marketers <i>do</i> refer to their strategies as groundbreaking, cutting edge, or the future of&#8230;</p>
<p>Call me conservative but at the core of every strategy is probably the same belief system or rationale that Ogilvy had in the late 40&#8242;s.  Unless you plan on smacking someone&#8217;s face in the name of advertising, you probably aren&#8217;t striking conceptual gold. </p>
<p>Great post, Lisa.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Barone</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/online-marketing/old-is-new-marketing/#comment-5987</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Barone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think my dad understands that I&#039;m intelligent.  He&#039;s just not so sure I have a real job or that I&#039;m going to be able to support myself.  He&#039;d also like me to learn to make sauce, to give him a namesake of a grandson, and to become a teacher like all  of his friends&#039; daughters.  You know, the important things.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my dad understands that I&#8217;m intelligent.  He&#8217;s just not so sure I have a real job or that I&#8217;m going to be able to support myself.  He&#8217;d also like me to learn to make sauce, to give him a namesake of a grandson, and to become a teacher like all  of his friends&#8217; daughters.  You know, the important things.  :)</p>
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