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	<title>Comments on: Stepping Away From Hail Mary Transparency</title>
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		<title>By: Alec Perkins</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/branding/hail-mary-transparency/#comment-9270</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec Perkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 04:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s entirely possible for a company to have the primary goal of maximum profit while also being completely transparent. It just seems that transparency is a problem for many companies because their ways of making the profit don&#039;t jibe with a transparent culture, or might turn people off. 

If the goal is maximum profit, transparency can potentially be a liability. If the goal is make the best or most helpful product or service possible, with profit being seen more as a &#039;side-effect&#039; of sorts, transparency is an asset and can only help. 

/idealism]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s entirely possible for a company to have the primary goal of maximum profit while also being completely transparent. It just seems that transparency is a problem for many companies because their ways of making the profit don&#8217;t jibe with a transparent culture, or might turn people off. </p>
<p>If the goal is maximum profit, transparency can potentially be a liability. If the goal is make the best or most helpful product or service possible, with profit being seen more as a &#8216;side-effect&#8217; of sorts, transparency is an asset and can only help. </p>
<p>/idealism</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Gowdy</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/branding/hail-mary-transparency/#comment-9210</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Gowdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 03:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve got to go with Ezra on this one, &quot;...the real problem with complete transparency is that most people do not know how to decipher it...&quot;

A little information can be a dangerous thing, because your customers start to fill in the gaps for themselves. Unless you&#039;re Sunshine &amp; Rainbows, Inc., there are things you can tell your customers that, in a vacuum, would frighten them. Hell, I&#039;m betting Sunshine &amp; Rainbows have some skeletons, too... unicorn skeletons.

Personally, unless it&#039;s giong to harm me to not know, or it&#039;s morally reprehensible, I&#039;d rather the companies I do business with don&#039;t show me their nasty underbits. To roll with the naked analogy, there are a lot of people I simply do not want to see with their pants around their ankles. I don&#039;t want to hear your story about why it looks that way or what kind of medicine you&#039;re taking for it, just put your clothes back on, wash your hands, and we can all get back to doing business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got to go with Ezra on this one, &#8220;&#8230;the real problem with complete transparency is that most people do not know how to decipher it&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>A little information can be a dangerous thing, because your customers start to fill in the gaps for themselves. Unless you&#8217;re Sunshine &amp; Rainbows, Inc., there are things you can tell your customers that, in a vacuum, would frighten them. Hell, I&#8217;m betting Sunshine &amp; Rainbows have some skeletons, too&#8230; unicorn skeletons.</p>
<p>Personally, unless it&#8217;s giong to harm me to not know, or it&#8217;s morally reprehensible, I&#8217;d rather the companies I do business with don&#8217;t show me their nasty underbits. To roll with the naked analogy, there are a lot of people I simply do not want to see with their pants around their ankles. I don&#8217;t want to hear your story about why it looks that way or what kind of medicine you&#8217;re taking for it, just put your clothes back on, wash your hands, and we can all get back to doing business.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Kern</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/branding/hail-mary-transparency/#comment-9205</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Kern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 03:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, SEO Mofo...

Paraphrasing:
  -- &quot;People are too stupid to understand...&quot;
  -- &quot;Transparency is BS because it might not only be the right thing to do and also make a profit?&quot;

Next you&#039;ll tell us that centralized State planning by the elite ruling party (the only truly smart citizens) leads to an enlightened nation without the natural forces of &quot;making money&quot;...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, SEO Mofo&#8230;</p>
<p>Paraphrasing:<br />
  &#8212; &#8220;People are too stupid to understand&#8230;&#8221;<br />
  &#8212; &#8220;Transparency is BS because it might not only be the right thing to do and also make a profit?&#8221;</p>
<p>Next you&#8217;ll tell us that centralized State planning by the elite ruling party (the only truly smart citizens) leads to an enlightened nation without the natural forces of &#8220;making money&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Kern</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/branding/hail-mary-transparency/#comment-9193</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Kern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[written communication is easy when the topics are not involving conflict/misunderstanding. at that point, it is far too easy for both parties (lisa &amp; ezra) to misunderstand each other). throw in potentially different cultures, and it doesn&#039;t get any better... in such circumstances, it can often be helpful to &quot;check assumptions&quot; before going off full tilt on a possibly erroneous path.

i read ezra&#039;s piece, and i didn&#039;t think that any of the &quot;transparency&quot; examples were what i would even refer to as &quot;transparency.&quot; but that&#039;s kinda my point. maybe we don&#039;t use the word in a similar manner...

but, it sure was a good enough reason for you to write a nice post :-)

personally, i prefer to use the term &quot;always be visible&quot; over &quot;be transparent&quot; when it comes to running s/w dev projects... but for companies and governments, transparency means being open to all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>written communication is easy when the topics are not involving conflict/misunderstanding. at that point, it is far too easy for both parties (lisa &amp; ezra) to misunderstand each other). throw in potentially different cultures, and it doesn&#8217;t get any better&#8230; in such circumstances, it can often be helpful to &#8220;check assumptions&#8221; before going off full tilt on a possibly erroneous path.</p>
<p>i read ezra&#8217;s piece, and i didn&#8217;t think that any of the &#8220;transparency&#8221; examples were what i would even refer to as &#8220;transparency.&#8221; but that&#8217;s kinda my point. maybe we don&#8217;t use the word in a similar manner&#8230;</p>
<p>but, it sure was a good enough reason for you to write a nice post :-)</p>
<p>personally, i prefer to use the term &#8220;always be visible&#8221; over &#8220;be transparent&#8221; when it comes to running s/w dev projects&#8230; but for companies and governments, transparency means being open to all.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Barone</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/branding/hail-mary-transparency/#comment-9191</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Barone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, I acknowledge that. However, good things done for bad reasons are okay with me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I acknowledge that. However, good things done for bad reasons are okay with me.</p>
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		<title>By: graywolf</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/branding/hail-mary-transparency/#comment-9189</link>
		<dc:creator>graywolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and you missed this part

&gt; the only reason I’m going to turn on comments is because in that particular case it will get me more traffic/links]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and you missed this part</p>
<p>&gt; the only reason I’m going to turn on comments is because in that particular case it will get me more traffic/links</p>
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		<title>By: Karri Flatla</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/branding/hail-mary-transparency/#comment-9188</link>
		<dc:creator>Karri Flatla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Alec Actually was thinking there is no reason at all that profit can&#039;t be a transparent goal itself ... especially tho if your work is meaningful and contributes positively to the lives of those you serve. No?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alec Actually was thinking there is no reason at all that profit can&#8217;t be a transparent goal itself &#8230; especially tho if your work is meaningful and contributes positively to the lives of those you serve. No?</p>
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		<title>By: Karri Flatla</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/branding/hail-mary-transparency/#comment-9187</link>
		<dc:creator>Karri Flatla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chocolate chip please, the chewy kind :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chocolate chip please, the chewy kind :)</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Gray</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/branding/hail-mary-transparency/#comment-9186</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with you, but I think it also &quot;depends&quot; on the corporate culture.

Many Companies and Governments have wandered far from the straight and narrow, and been &quot;caught&quot; wandering... so the only way they can try to claw back is to start throwing around the T word.

Companies that post policies, have clearly visible rules that make good common sense, and are looking for a win/win with their partners... the ones who truly are transparent... will prosper.

The others... who talk the talk, but don&#039;t walk the walk ?  They will eventually stumble over themselves in the murk.

I believe Karma works, more slowly perhaps, but just as effectively, in business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you, but I think it also &#8220;depends&#8221; on the corporate culture.</p>
<p>Many Companies and Governments have wandered far from the straight and narrow, and been &#8220;caught&#8221; wandering&#8230; so the only way they can try to claw back is to start throwing around the T word.</p>
<p>Companies that post policies, have clearly visible rules that make good common sense, and are looking for a win/win with their partners&#8230; the ones who truly are transparent&#8230; will prosper.</p>
<p>The others&#8230; who talk the talk, but don&#8217;t walk the walk ?  They will eventually stumble over themselves in the murk.</p>
<p>I believe Karma works, more slowly perhaps, but just as effectively, in business.</p>
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		<title>By: Alec Perkins</title>
		<link>http://outspokenmedia.com/branding/hail-mary-transparency/#comment-9185</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec Perkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point. It&#039;s only a dichotomy when profit is the goal, instead of a &lt;em&gt;mechanism&lt;/em&gt; to achieve the goal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. It&#8217;s only a dichotomy when profit is the goal, instead of a <em>mechanism</em> to achieve the goal.</p>
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